This World of Warcraft thread got off to a great start, thanks to a quick-witted response by Tearing, level 9 posting-alt of the Firetree realm: Extreme misogyny in wow.
Anaksunamoun, level 5 shaman of the Cho’gall realm, wrote:
im a level 45 rogue and i have experienced more than 5 times in less than 4 mos of playing extreme misogyny and typecasting of female players. apparently there arent a lot of female rogues since “girls are usually mages or shamans”
(Emphasis mine.)
Reply #1, by Tearing:
move along, this is not an attention seeking thread, which would coincidentally fit right into any stereotypes
Harassment I can believe. Misogyny, not so much.
Hehe. I like that thread; there are some fun replies. It’s always nice when folks take the trolls as trolls rather than getting all worked up, and have some fun with it.
[Yes, I’m a woman who plays WoW. Yes, I’ve met asses who behave badly toward women in game. Yes, I’ve met women who act like bitches toward men in game. People are people and some of them will always try to be rude and/or cruel in whatever way seems convenient; gender isn’t really the issue and neither is the game.]
i’m a female irl and i play a lvl 70 gnome rogue in wow. for all those women who complain about being harassed in game on their female avatars, i advise you to roll a gnome.
in the umpteen months i’ve been playing the game, i’ve been hit on like twice. when one guy asked me my rl name, i just told him “bruce.” that ended the conversation.
my bf, on the other hand, has a nelf chick alt and gets hit on way more than i do. go figure. 🙂
i started out in daoc and played a cleric. it did seem like there were a whole lot more female clerics around than any other class, but while the whole whack-a-mole aspect of the healing game was fun, i really enjoyed soloing on my infiltrator alt. hence rolling a rogue when i moved to wow.
some stereotypes are true for a reason, but there are always plenty of exceptions to any rule.
So Heather, are you a Mage or a Shaman 😛
I’m glad this misogyny is XTREME because I was getting bored with the regular kind.
Oh damn! I made a shaman when I came back to WoW four months ago, who’s now 60. I fit the stereotype! What EVER shall I do now? Maybe I should roll a mage.
My level 70 blood elf priest is also the typical female thing to play. Oh and my 60 paladin — from way back when WoW first came out — must be another stereotypical female class.
Any female that plays anything must be stereotyped immediately.
Saccia: Lol, my rogue and priest are my mains, so neither. I do play mage as well, but not nearly as much. *grin* And shaman? Meh, I’m not so fond of the hybrid classes. On the other hand, my husband plays a mean mage…
There’s misogyny everywhere; of course it’s in WoW! Most people are not misogynist, but there’s a sizeable minority making everyone else look bad.
My guild has a lot of female players. I think it’s because overall the guild has attracted people who will treat women (and men, for that matter) with respect. Quite a few couples play in our guild.
Heather, actually… according to Blizzard, priest is a hybrid. We’re a healing/dps hybrid. And we’re supposed to compete with other healing hybrids for healing, not outclass them in every scenario. That’s pretty much what has happened, and as a result priests have less mana efficiency / less longetivity / poorer healing output per second than paladins, and have far less survivability than other healing hybrids.
GG to us priests.
I’ve gone strictly holy and reserve my priest for party-play (my rogue is for my soloing), as well as loading her up with a ton of healing gear, so she certainly doesn’t play like a hybrid class. 🙂
No, the priest is supposed to be a “pure healer.” But consider this: a holy specced priest has basically the same amount of mana as a holy specced paladin — however, a holy specced paladin does not go into another tree to pick up talents to help healing. All holy talents help healing immensely, and the +% intellect talent which is deep inside the discipline tree for priests is the easiest to access talent for paladins.
Also consider that in BC, a shadowpriest DPSing with a holy paladin main healing has more synergy than a shadowpriest DPSing with a holy priest main healing. Why? Spiritual attunement, which allows the paladin to passively regain mana from others’ healing, including vampiric embrace healing from a shadowpriest. Many heroic instance groups have taken to a holy paladin MAIN healing instead of a holy priest, because their mana simply lasts longer, they have more healing per second after talents (light’s grace 2.0 sec heal that heals for 4k instead of greater heal 2.5 sec that heals for a similar amount), and they have far superior damage mitigation through plate, shield, divine shield, blessing of protection, etc.
It sucks being outhealed by a healing hybrid, but Blizzard never really gives a crap about unhappy healers. /shrug
I don’t play my priests any more.
Paladin is such a nicer healing class… it’s insane. The main difference now I think is the way they nerf item healing scaling, pallies sort of always had that with flash of light anyway, and now priests don’t. There are so many talents pallies have that reduce mana and give mana back.. I barely have to drink unless its after a near-wipe-circumstances pull.
My most recent discovery is a new talent that reduces mana cost of spells by 50% for the next 15seconds… and if you happen to crit during that, you get 100% of the spell’s mana cost back when you only spent 50%… gg free mana!
From healing as a pally (66) , I went back to my shadow priest (64) healing in decent healing gear, and obviously its alright as long as the fights are short and lots of drinking time.
Then I went over to my holy priest (untouched at 60) expecting to have a much easier time healing in ramparts, and the differences between full-shadow healing and holy/disc healing were depressingly minimal. I think I even burn mana faster healing than when shadow dpsing.
Also, being a squishy sucks. Fade just doesnt cut bubble, or hammer of justice… let alone plate armor to hide in.
Maybe I’ve just gimped my own healing style by going ‘easymode’ pally healing and ‘can’t’ heal as a priest anymore…
I don’t know. I feel sorry for priests, I help them out whenever I can.
Holy paladin and shadow priest make for a beautiful combination, however.
This said I’m not even 70 yet and haven’t experience any of the new-end-game.
Holy priests and warriors need a boost, no question. Level 70 raid encounters need retuning to help out the rogues. I wouldn’t even invite myself (rogue) to a lot of BC encounters.
Fade doesn’t scale. It’s a SET NUMBER of -threat for 10 seconds. So I can be sitting there, hitting fade, and the mob will still be hitting for me for 2k a pop due to my cloth. Totally balanced with a complete aggro wipe in Divine Shield for 12 seconds along with a stun… Not to mention the innate -40% aggro reduction for paladin heals.
Healing as a holy priest is a complete joke. There are 4 healing classes, and the priest is the least valuable of them. The priest has the least survability due to cloth and a craptastic one-shottable shield at 70. The druid can go into bear form, the shaman has mail+shield+frostshock/earthbind kite, the paladin has plate+shield+bubble+stun+lay on hands.
If that doesn’t sound unbalanced, consider that for the basic same output in healing, the priest has the least amount of utility for the raid. Stacking druids/shamans/paladins bring far more in terms of other abilities, like blessings, auras, totems, bloodlusts/heroisms, innervates, combat rezzes, reincarnations, divine interventions, lay on hands, etc. You name it, the priest doesn’t have it.
I don’t know why the hell I’m still playing my priest. People say oh oh we need priests. What the hell for?!
All I can say is, I agree.
/comfort